ADRIE KINTZIGER aan moq_discuss details weergeven 00:35 (17 uren geleden)
As for not believing in any religion, you're wrong. I believe in the religion of individual liberty to think and act as one wishes (without direct harm to others) and to accept responsibility for the consequences of one's choices in life -- the religion of "endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. Hitler was not showing direct harm to his own environment on the "Adelaarsnest"mountain, Hitler took all responsability and consequenses personally, together with 6 million evaporated jews and 20 million european's, The number of Americans that died on Omaha, Utah, etc beach remains unknown until today. There are no exact figure's about Poland, Russia, Oekraine, etc. The pursuit of life liberty, and happiness was called the surch for 'Lebensraum", space to live. Platt Holden aan moq_discuss details weergeven 01:38 (16 uren geleden) Hi Adrie, Did you miss the part about direct harm to others? And are you not glad that Americans, many of whom live by the creed I believe in, freed your country from the Nazi boot? I'm constantly amazed at the lack of gratitude from those the U.S. has liberated. Platt. Platt Holden aan moq_discuss details weergeven 01:54 (16 uren geleden) Hi Adrie, I guess you don't believe in free speech. Neither did Stalin, Hitler, Mao and all other dictators. On gaining power, that's the first thing dictators insist on -- "Nyet" free speech. Pirsig understood. Free speech is an intellectually-based individual right against the force of social conformity. Platt ADRIE KINTZIGER aan moq_discuss details weergeven 10:56 (7 uren geleden) No , i did not miss the part"direct harm", it is the direct-widget in combination with the word harm that i find offensive, Platt the indirect impied implication is lethal,and my gratitude towards the Liberating Americans, Canadians ans all the Allied forces is incredible, pure and without questioning. I am gratefull for all the value's given to us, really , especially the impact of the Marshall-plan, and the generosity of the Americans in general. I am one of those rare people, Platt ,visiting the Warcemetery's physikally, to pay them respect. And Yes , i strongly believe in free speech, and all this right we need. I am also aware of the fact that some social corrections are needed, to filter out the nature of the beast, the evil within us all. Free speech, without violating other people's rights. The rights we need to have, without abuse of rights, rights can be expoited. And i will treath you correct , Platt, if you leave your cocoon of defaitism. ----- Original Message ----- From: "ADRIE KINTZIGER" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [MD] The Moral Landscape No , i did not miss the part"direct harm", it is the direct-widget in combination with the word harm that i find offensive, Platt the indirect impied implication is lethal,and my gratitude towards the Liberating Americans, Canadians ans all the Allied forces is incredible, pure and without questioning. I am gratefull for all the value's given to us, really , especially the impact of the Marshall-plan, and the generosity of the Americans in general. I am one of those rare people, Platt ,visiting the Warcemetery's physikally, to pay them respect. Platt Glad to hear of your gratitude to America. But, your statement about "direct harm" is incomprehensible. And Yes , i strongly believe in free speech, and all this right we need. I am also aware of the fact that some social corrections are needed, to filter out the nature of the beast, the evil within us all. Free speech, without violating other people's rights. The rights we need to have, without abuse of rights, rights can be expoited. What rights are you talking about. The right not to be offended? Is that your idea of a right? And i will treath you correct , Platt, if you leave your cocoon of defaitism. Platt Another incomprehensible statement. ----------------------------- So , Platt, to come back on the incomprihensible part,.. Hitler was not a direct harm to his own environment, etc quoting myself.... "Hitler was not showing direct harm to his own environment on the "Adelaarsnest"mountain, Hitler took all responsability and consequenses personally, together with 6 million evaporated jews and 20 million european's, The number of Americans that died on Omaha, Utah, etc beach remains unknown until today. There are no exact figure's about Poland, Russia, Oekraine, etc. The pursuit of life liberty, and happiness was called the surch for 'Lebensraum", space to live."-end quote. Wich part is a problem to understand? the part about the direct harm, taking the consequentes, or the defaitism? I like to clarify something Platt, you once showed us something of your work, and i am very convinced that it was of an extraordinary quality,and i still think it was topquality,proved you are very intelligent and capable. I think you quoted Ant on it, telling you that it was exellent, and i agree, it was a pearl. And i honored you for it , Platt, i still do,but to be quit honest, i think you should leave the stadler& Waldorff balcony, and show some quality again. I will treat you correct Platt, if you leave your cocoon of defaitism. Adrie 2010/10/20 Platt Holden <[email protected]> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "ADRIE KINTZIGER" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 4:56 AM > > Subject: Re: [MD] The Moral Landscape > > > No , i did not miss the part"direct harm", it is the direct-widget in >> combination with the word harm that i find offensive, Platt >> the indirect impied implication is lethal,and my gratitude towards the >> Liberating Americans, Canadians ans all the >> Allied forces is incredible, pure and without questioning. >> I am gratefull for all the value's given to us, really , especially the >> impact of the Marshall-plan, and the generosity of the >> Americans in general. I am one of those rare people, Platt ,visiting the >> Warcemetery's physikally, to pay them respect. >> > > Platt > Glad to hear of your gratitude to America. But, your statement about > "direct harm" is incomprehensible. > > > And Yes , i strongly believe in free speech, and all this right we need. >> I am also aware of the fact that some social corrections are needed, to >> filter out the nature of the beast, the evil within us all. >> Free speech, without violating other people's rights. >> >> The rights we need to have, without abuse of rights, rights can be >> expoited. >> > > What rights are you talking about. The right not to be offended? Is that > your > idea of a right? > > > And i will treath you correct , Platt, if you leave your cocoon of >> defaitism. >> > > Platt > Another incomprehensible statement. > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > -- parser Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
