Hi Mark, I didn't think much of of the web pages. For me decontextualize means removing and isolating a process from it's interdependencies to make it an object of analysis.
Marsha On Oct 23, 2010, at 12:55 PM, 118 wrote: > Hi Marsha, > Thanks for your help in my search. I found the following web page on > decontexualization. > > http://www.unm.edu/~devalenz/handouts/decontext2.html > > Let me know what you think. > > Cheers, > Mark > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:20 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Hi Mark, >> >> Here is how I interpret, based on how they function, the Intellectual >> (SOM) Level: >> >> >> The Intellectual Level, the fourth level, is comprised of static patterns >> of value such as theology, mathematics, science and philosophy. The way that >> these patterns function is as reified concepts and the rules for their >> rational analysis and manipulation. Reification decontextualizes. >> Intellectual patterns process from a subject/object conceptual framework >> creating false boundaries that give the illusion of independence as a >> “thing” or an “object of analysis.” The fourth level is a formalized >> subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount demand is for rational, >> objective knowledge, which is free from the taint of any subjectivity like >> emotions, inclinations, fears and compulsions in order to pursue, study and >> research in an unbiased and rational manner. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> Marsha >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 23, 2010, at 3:40 AM, MarshaV wrote: >> >>> >>> Correct interrupted to be interpreted. >>> >>> >>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:16 PM, 118 wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:09 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:44 AM, 118 wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> inferred that you were reasoning that Quality was analogous to not >> this, >>>>>> not that. Clearly I was mistaken. You were simply stating that >> Quality >>>>> can >>>>>> not be described with words. OK, I get it. How is it then that you >>>>> discuss >>>>>> it? >>>>> >>>>> Marsha: >>>>> The point is I don't talk about it. Using intellect to talk about >> Quality, >>>>> reifies it, >>>>> and it is not this, not that. I experience it as unpatterned, and >>>>> patterned flow, >>>>> after that nothing fits well. If you want to talk about Intellectual >> Level >>>>> patterns, >>>>> or Social Level patterns, or Biological Level patterns, or Inorganic >> Level >>>>> patterns, I think there is lots to consider and discuss. >>>>> >>>> >>>> The point is that while you do not talk about it, you certainly write >> about >>>> it, unless you are in the wrong forum. Your description of experience >> is >>>> shorthand at best There are at least four words there that need >>>> interpretation (and one of those is not "I", which can also be >> included). >>>> So, let's talk about the expression of quality in the subjects you >>>> reference above. You can consider it not really talking about Quality >> if >>>> that makes more sense to you. >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>> >>> >>> Hi Mark, >>> >>> The Dynamic aspect of Quality is unknowable, indivisible, undefinable. >>> >>> Static patterns of value are ever-changing, relative, impermanent >>> habit that is able to be conceptualized. >>> >>> The four levels are interpreted and defined with slight differences >>> dependent on an individuals past static pattern history. >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
