Hi Marsha, Thanks for your help in my search. I found the following web page on decontexualization.
http://www.unm.edu/~devalenz/handouts/decontext2.html Let me know what you think. Cheers, Mark On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 8:20 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > Here is how I interpret, based on how they function, the Intellectual > (SOM) Level: > > > The Intellectual Level, the fourth level, is comprised of static patterns > of value such as theology, mathematics, science and philosophy. The way that > these patterns function is as reified concepts and the rules for their > rational analysis and manipulation. Reification decontextualizes. > Intellectual patterns process from a subject/object conceptual framework > creating false boundaries that give the illusion of independence as a > “thing” or an “object of analysis.” The fourth level is a formalized > subject/object level (SOM), where the paramount demand is for rational, > objective knowledge, which is free from the taint of any subjectivity like > emotions, inclinations, fears and compulsions in order to pursue, study and > research in an unbiased and rational manner. > > > Thanks, > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 23, 2010, at 3:40 AM, MarshaV wrote: > > > > > Correct interrupted to be interpreted. > > > > > > On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:16 PM, 118 wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:09 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> On Oct 22, 2010, at 1:44 AM, 118 wrote: > >>> > >>>> inferred that you were reasoning that Quality was analogous to not > this, > >>>> not that. Clearly I was mistaken. You were simply stating that > Quality > >>> can > >>>> not be described with words. OK, I get it. How is it then that you > >>> discuss > >>>> it? > >>> > >>> Marsha: > >>> The point is I don't talk about it. Using intellect to talk about > Quality, > >>> reifies it, > >>> and it is not this, not that. I experience it as unpatterned, and > >>> patterned flow, > >>> after that nothing fits well. If you want to talk about Intellectual > Level > >>> patterns, > >>> or Social Level patterns, or Biological Level patterns, or Inorganic > Level > >>> patterns, I think there is lots to consider and discuss. > >>> > >> > >> The point is that while you do not talk about it, you certainly write > about > >> it, unless you are in the wrong forum. Your description of experience > is > >> shorthand at best There are at least four words there that need > >> interpretation (and one of those is not "I", which can also be > included). > >> So, let's talk about the expression of quality in the subjects you > >> reference above. You can consider it not really talking about Quality > if > >> that makes more sense to you. > >> > >> Mark > >> > > > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > The Dynamic aspect of Quality is unknowable, indivisible, undefinable. > > > > Static patterns of value are ever-changing, relative, impermanent > > habit that is able to be conceptualized. > > > > The four levels are interpreted and defined with slight differences > > dependent on an individuals past static pattern history. > > > > > > Marsha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
