Right on, right on, right on. The ego of man knows no bounds, nor his ability 
to fool himself. Example: science claims the universe has no purpose, but 
science and scientists (not to mention all of life) exhibit purpose constantly. 

Keep those high quality posts of yours coming.

Platt.


On 25 Oct 2010 at 23:33, 118 wrote:

Hear, Hear, Platt,

I suppose some equate intelligence to that simple thing that we human's do
with our heads.  That's not intelligence, that is just mere human stupidity
and self-centeredness.  We are not even intelligent enough to know that.
 There is intelligence way, way beyond some simple conglomeration of nerve
cells that cannot even exist without help.  But, if we want to bring the
universe down to our level of intelligence, so be it, it certainly
diminishes its grandeur.  But it does make us the center of the universe,
and extremely moral to boot.

Mark

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 1:12 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Let's up our game to scientific evidence, guys. A basic article of
> scientific
> faith is that there exists an orderly world to be discovered according to
> intelligently created and applied mathematical principles. Science offers
> empirical evidence of such intelligent order. That such arose by chance is
> less
> believable than Christ rose from the dead.
>
> Sent from my intelligently designed Toshiba.
>
> On 25 Oct 2010 at 20:34, Ian wrote:
>
> Yes but that's just a truism Craig. Let's up our game guys. Ian
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 25 Oct 2010, at 19:58, [email protected] wrote:
>
> > [Steve]
> >> No evidence could ever confirm [ID] since it is impossible to even
> >> imagine evidence that could ever be inconsistent with it. Unless we
> >> can say what it would be like for ID to be false, it is meaningless
> >> to
> >> science to say that it is true.
> >
> > There could be evidence that ID is true: viz., the Designer shows up,
> > maybe alters the speed of light, changes the strength of attraction
> > between the proton & the electron, etc.  What there can't be is
> > evidence
> > that  there is no Designer.
> > Craig
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