Ham:
Now, if betterness (Goodness) is relative, it has to be relative to the
observer
who realizes it. If there is no observer ('self' or 'agent') there is no moral
value realized. Then again, if the universe is totally moral (as Pirsig
suggests), there is no NEED to realize it. Instead, mankind automatically
yields to the universal principal. Yes, this is "determinism"; and I happen to
believe, along with the Founders of our free republic, that man is endowed by
his Creator with Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. What is Liberty
if
not Freedom? How is man a free creature if his moral behavior is determined by
Natural Law instead of by his own value-sensibility?
Ron:
IF the natural law is value sensibility, there is no conrtadiction is there?
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