God is really only another artist. He invented the giraffe, the elephantand
the cat. He has no real style, He just goes on trying other things.
(Pablo Picasso)

2010/11/1 Ham Priday <[email protected]>

> Hi Horse --
>
>
>
>  Just a minor point but why would I eject you from MD?
>> As far as I'm aware you haven't been abusive, you edit your posts
>> properly, you don't inundate the forum with posts, you're generally polite
>> etc. etc.
>> Your point of view may be at odds with aspects of the MoQ
>> but then there are some on this list who say they support the MoQ
>> and then do their best to undermine it.
>> Your political persuasion is not mine but then you don't shove that
>> down everyone's throat at every possible opportunity.
>> In short, you're very welcome here and, to be honest, if certain others on
>> this forum behaved as well as you I would be a lot happier at times.
>>
>
> Thanks for the vote of confidence, Horse.  It's much appreciated.
>
> There are times when I feel compelled to speak out against ideas which
> violate what I view as the most fundamental principles of reality, and
> denial of the individual self is one of them.  The rejection of man's
> spiritual quest in the cause of anti-theism is another.  We're all searching
> for answers, but bashing the beliefs of others won't get us there.  And I
> certainly have no desire to undermine the MoQ.
>
> As you may recall, I was invited to join the MD in a response from Mr.
> Pirsig to a query regarding values in the summer of 2004.  After checking
> out ZMM from our local library and reading LILA in paperback, I concluded
> that the MoQ was a comprehensive aesthetic analogy for material existence.
> Exposure to the MD quickly revealed that this worldview was to be taken
> literally.  Having developed a valuistic philosophy of my own, I began to
> realize this was impossible for me.  But by that time, I had become so
> fascinated by what the forum participants were saying that I was hooked into
> exchanging ideas with them.
>
> Pirsig is an appealing writer with a keen mind and an anthropological
> flair. Although I don't put much stock in his alleged "radical empiricism",
> I believe the Quality thesis will be his legacy to philosophy.  The major
> problem I have with the ontology is that Quality=Value must be realized, and
> Value realized by a pattern of Quality is tautological.  This is why I
> stress value-sensibility as the essence of selfness.
>
> The anticipation of "ejection" may have exaggerated my metaphysical
> differences with the author, for which I apologize.  Anyway, it was gracious
> of you to come to my defense with such a favorable report.  I don't envy the
> conflicts you mediate daily in what must be a frustrating role as the MD
> administrator.
>
> Yours respectfully,
> Ham
>
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