Hi Platt, Consensus below, followed by enlargement. [Platt] Individual thought conforms to the intellectual level which consists of thought systems including logic, the scientific method, subject-object metaphysics and so-called "critical reasoning." For most people in the west, such systems comprise the sine qua non of quality thinking. They are taught by the educational establishment, not only because they have proved useful in understanding the physical realm (where most people's concerns reside) but also because it's easy to grade students on their ability to conform to the systems and thereby keep them subservient. So, yes, in most instances thought is considered "pertinent" when it meets the criteria of the approved thought systems that comprise the intellectual level, guarded by a clique of academic elites against upstart contrarians.
[Mark] What you post resonates with my understanding. It is the pertinence of intellectual thought which is the key for individual expression. Pertinence (or agreement) must be arrived at through rational inquiry. As such deviations from the accepted can appear to be insane at first glance. In this way, I see the intellectual level being directed by individual thought. When such outliers become the norm, the transition is complete, only to be changed again of course. As we see in this forum, the paradigm shift is from the subject object form of understanding to one of Quality. In the end, nothing changes in terms of subject and object, but the awareness of such is different. This is put forward in Zen when they state (and a paraphrase), The mountains are still mountains, and the streams are still streams, but they are regarded differently. It is a full circle arrived at through a conscious attempt at expansion. Cheers, Mark Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
