Hi Mark
As with any area of knowledge starting somewhere is essential. However,
assuming that this starting point is unassailable and irrefutable is, as
I think you point out, the origins of dogma.
Questioning the origins of knowledge is best done by reasoning and not
just replacement by a new dogma. Then there's good reasoning and poor
reasoning. Ignoring data or experience which refutes a wanted conclusion
is a species of the latter. Only when considering all relevant
data/experience can reasoning be qualified as good reasoning and even
then it is reason that decides what is relevant and what is not.
As far as I'm concerned any process or area of knowledge that fails to
question it's underlying assumptions is dogma. If it's wrong throw it
out and start over or modify the original assumptions.
Horse
On 02/11/2010 15:16, 118 wrote:
Hi Horse,
Thanks for the above. Don't get wrong, I fully subscribe to to the sense of
betterness that you posted as summarized by the examples. I am not
questioning those as effective descriptions. My only point was that we
accept them as is, and then move on to betterness or Quality, to ask how? I
certainly do prefer reasoning along such lines, that is why I endeavor to
make it more clear. Indeed questioning is a good tool to bring about
reason. That is what I was doing with my post to you.
As I see it, we have to start somewhere. That somewhere is not always a
product of reason. Certainly such precepts can be further supported, but
such support becomes somewhat self-referential. However, that is to be
expected since that is the nature of knowledge. I have no doubt that what
has been referred to as Dogma has also undergone significant thought and
reason by those who search for such things. Then there are those who accept
the teachings of those who thought and work out such dogma. We see this all
the time in the fields of science. It would not make sense to have to
rethink many of the principles that form the basis of an advanced science.
Such dogma is trusted.
Again, I was not disputing what you posted, only disputing it's presumed
lack of Dogma.
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