Ron said to Dan:
... I mean inorganic, organic, social and intellectual betterness. Unless you 
do not think Quality and betterness have the same meaning.


Dan said:

No, not in this context. You are talking about static patterns of value. 
Dynamic Quality is what's better. It is what drives static quality patterns 
towards "betterness," an undefined "somethingness" that isn't a thing at all. 
Once defined, it is gone... poof. Like a puffy white cloud in a clear blue 
summer sky... now it is here, now it is not. Where does it come from, and where 
does it go? It is a meaningless question. It is not a place at all. We are 
using intellectual concepts to point to that which is beyond conception. How 
can there be four when there isn't even one?


dmb says:
I think you both have a good point and they aren't really mutually exclusive 
points. I mean, each level of static quality is superior to the one below it 
precisely because it's more open to improvement. The intellectual level is 
considered to be superior to the social level because it is less static and 
more flexible. This upward movement toward greater freedom has its limits too 
of course. Without static patterns nothing could last and too much freedom 
leads to degeneracy and devolution. I mean, betterness has its static side too. 
I'd even say betterness can be applied within the fourth level so that we can 
weigh the relative merits of opposed intellectual patterns, such as we see in 
the rejection of SOM in favor of the MOQ. The basic idea that some things are 
better than others can be applied a million different ways. It guides the 
painter, the poet, the politician, the philosopher and the scientists. Hell, it 
guides us in the produce section of the grocery store too. Some 
 philosophies are better than others, some cultures are better than others and 
some tomatoes are better than others. 


                                          
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