Matt and Mark, sounds to me like you guys are flirting around the area of "neo-hegelian" verboten territory. Bad! Naughty! Mustn't! dave doesn't approve.
According to my thinking, experiencing an abstraction is just about the most direct experience there can be. Neurons have a language too, ya know. If people would just sit on a hot stove just a little longer than normal, maybe they'd learn something beyond a parrot-like reactionism. John On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:33 AM, Matt Kundert <[email protected] > wrote: > > Yeah, it's this notion that, under the typical understanding of what it > means to distinguish between "direct" and "indirect" experience, one > would have to count abstraction as just as direct as experience as > any other that I've been working on articulating, most recently under > the rubric of "isolation." > > > Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:56:08 -0800 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [MD] Philosophy and Abstraction > > > > Hi Matt, > > It is interesting how we view abstraction as something different from the > > scene abstracted from. I think this is something of an illusion, perhaps > > provided by the concrete nature of books. Certainly the abstraction is > > somewhat simplified, but the process of abstraction is as real as any > other > > adventure in life; the process of abstraction is no different from > > parachuting. It is done in the moment and consuming of the present. > > Abstraction is an art just as much as playing the guitar. Trying to > > understand somebody else's abstraction may seem a bit removed. But even > > that is in real time like listening to a concert. > > > > Mark > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
