On Dec 1, 2010, at 6:13 PM, 118 wrote: > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 1:44 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Mark, >> >> Pardon for the interruption, but I have been considering how one is >> encouraged to turn intellectualizing about Quality into the direct >> experience of Quality. >> >> Marsha >> >> [Mark] >> > Hi Marsha, > Good question. For me, the first step was to realize that intellectualizing > about Quality was in fact a direct experience of it. So, what does this > mean? It means that if one becomes aware of the process of > intellectualization (in a mindfulness way, I suppose) then things become > more easy. This is of course the path of Zen, which I will not even try to > put down in words.
Marsha: Of course intellectualizing about Quality is a direct experience with static value. A direct experience without static value is also possible. > So, I would encourage those who you are encouraging, to pay attention to > what they are thinking. Such thinking can be considered as happening to > one, which makes it easier. By consistently being mindful, the choices of > Quality become more obvious. This is of course a trick of the mind, but it > seems to allow the illusion of freedom to gain predominance. > > A quote from ZMM comes to mind which I paraphrase since I do not want to > look it up. But it happened while Phaedrus and his son were cycling into > some town and Phaedrus was contemplating the look on people's faces in their > cars: "So difficult when contemplated in advance, so easy when you do it". > Quotes are just to distinguish and not real quotes (I don't think). Marsha: I've agreed with your quoting this before. I still agree. > The question is: Is there ever enough information to make the right choice? > If so, how do we know when we have got that? Living in Quality, as in Zen, > means to respond immediately. Believe me, there is a lot more information > already present than can be further accumulated. Right at your fingertips. > > Of course, the Westernization of Zen has always been difficult. We believe > so much in the inherent existence of objects and pursuit of happiness. > Gives us something to do I guess. > > Just my own analogies, of course. I hope they are useful to you. > > Mark Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
