Hi John, Neo-Hegelian sounds cool to me. I do respect Hegel as a brilliant man. So long as it is not neo-conservative... Maybe I'll look it up.
I don't know if it is verboten. We all speak of sensing dynamic quality. The question is, where does that occur? If our wordy consciousness is somehow one step removed, then what is happening right at this moment? It would imply that there is no direct experience within our thoughts, which doesn't ring true to me. I think the attempt is to qualify and quantify it. If it is something that we are not aware of, but can only theorize about, then this whole radical empiricism falls apart. Certainly we can use words like "mystical experience" as some kind of objective reality which is somewhere else. But as I have said before (and you agreed with, thanks) this whole thing is a mystical experience. How can we describe it otherwise. Preaching to the converted, I know. It would seem that some are using the wrong side of Occam's razor, or using it in reverse. So, back to dynamic quality. It is right now, can't be anywhere else. What do we do with it? That is the question. How do we spread the word to stop all this insanity? How do we encourage good choices? Unless people believe in it, they will not follow. All this contusion into tying philosophies together is great for the philosopher, but what about those others. ZMM had a way; I experienced it in the '70s; everybody got it. What happened? I think Pirsig was enamored with his fame and following, and the academics go ahold of it. What happened to the book on American Indians he was going to write? But, now I sound like a broken record, Quality is now...Quality is now...Quality is now... Ouch, that burned! Mark On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:14 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Matt and Mark, > > sounds to me like you guys are flirting around the area of "neo-hegelian" > verboten territory. Bad! Naughty! Mustn't! > dave doesn't approve. > > According to my thinking, experiencing an abstraction is just about the > most > direct experience there can be. Neurons have a language too, ya know. If > people would just sit on a hot stove just a little longer than normal, > maybe they'd learn something beyond a parrot-like reactionism. > > John > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
