On Jan 9, 2011, at 1:12 AM, X Acto wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [MD] Changes in 2011
>
> Marsha to Andre quoting Anthony's PhD:
>
> "In consequence, Pirsig thought ‘Quality’ was better divided metaphysically
> into the Dynamic and static – primarily because the aesthetic, mystic and
> scientific aspects of reality can be taken account of by this dichotomy and,
> as the Dynamic is the essential nature of the static, there remains,
> essentially, only one reality of Quality, not two. This division of Quality
> into the Dynamic and static also assists his metaphysics to explain why an
> experience of a record or a painting can be variable depending on the viewer."
> (McWatt, Anthony, 'A Critical Analysis of Robert Pirsig’s Metaphysics of
> Quality', p.70)
>
> and:
>
> In Buddhism it is Form is Emptiness, Emptiness is Form.
> (Heart Sutra)
>
> Andre:
> So? Is this your 'evidence' or justification for saying DQ=sq? And, if so,
> how
> does this add to Pirsig's MOQ? By making a distinction between DQ and sq did
> Pirsig commit a grave error?
>
> Ron:
> This seems to be what is being wrestled with, the arrival at the idea that
> forms
> are empty of material objective "permanance" which is useful in breaking a
> static
> conventional prejudice,but once the point has been made, what sort of meaning
> is wrought by resting on it?
>
> Philosophical discussions should begin here, not end.
>
Marsha:
Here's another interesting quote from the MoQ Textbook where:
"Nagarjuna and Pirsig also have a similar recognition of two types of truth;
the ‘static’ conventional truth (sammuti-sacca) and the ‘Dynamic’ ultimate
truth (paramattha-sacca).
I am confused. My answer may contain ideas about the intellectual level, SOM
and reification, and I have been told we are not hear to learn what I think,
but to learn what RMP thinks."
(MoQ Textbook, p102)
But I am confused. My response may contain ideas about the intellectual level,
SOM and reification, and I have been told we are not hear to learn what I
think, but to learn what RMP thinks.
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