Thx , Andre

'What the Metaphysics of Quality adds to James' pragmatism and his radical
empiricism is the idea that the primal reality from which subjects and
objects spring is value. By doing so it seems to unite pragmatism and
radical empiricism into a single fabric. Value, the pragmatic test of truth
is also the primary empirical experience'. (LILA, p 372)end.
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I'v always tought of this one as to regard the philosophical developments
since Plato and the split,as a proces of landwinning on the sea, to see the
proces since the split as a form of "Inpoldering" philosophy into language
as value.
Remarkably however is that these forms of "Inpoldering" are recognised by
William James and Pirsig as unnessesary, and deviating from value's at the
source of the proces.
What Pirsig and James are writing in fact, is a proces of "Ontpoldering"
again,
to give the land back to the sea again,and to observe it in its brutal
'Raw'state
as it was responding to quality, without the clothings of neo-classicism.
The raw state of reality, the "Ontpoldering" of philosophy.

Sorry for the Dutch terminology, i don't know the words in English,
But i'm sure you will understand the terms.
Adrie


2011/3/6 Andre Broersen <[email protected]>

> Marsha to Andre:
>
> Funny, I don't remember a Seigfried quote stating anything at all about the
> MoQ.  But I do remember presenting you with a quote stating that the MoQ is
> not intended to be within any philosophic tradition, that, I imagine would
> include' the Jamesian tradition.
>
> Andre:
> Ah, so true Marsha! Let me quote Pirsig:
>
> 'What the Metaphysics of Quality adds to James' pragmatism and his radical
> empiricism is the idea that the primal reality from which subjects and
> objects spring is value. By doing so it seems to unite pragmatism and
> radical empiricism into a single fabric. Value, the pragmatic test of truth
> is also the primary empirical experience'. (LILA, p 372)
>
> So what this indicates is that indeed the MOQ is not 'within' any
> philosophic tradition. Rather these particular philosophic traditions (i.e.
> pragmatism and radical empiricism) fit nicely within Pirsig's MOQ.
>
> Funny that.
>
>
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