Andre,

I am not pushing anything.  I am entitled to my own view.  You, 
Adrie and dmb seem to think that whatever way dmb blows, 
there blows the MoQ.  No, no, no!  As I stated yesterday, 
James was not a MoQ scholar, Seigfried is not a MoQ 
scholar and I will be quite surprised if dmb ever becomes 
a MoQ scholar.  

There is always differences within a tradition.  I am quite 
tired of dmb &company acting like whatever dmb says is truth.

I'm ready to change the subject.  


Marsha 


p.s.  I read Dean Summers paper over a year ago.  It's a very 
good paper.  





On Mar 8, 2011, at 1:24 PM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Hello Marsha, dmb, Adrie (thank you for those quotes), Ian,
> 
> I really fail to see any contradiction or problem with this issue.
> 
> Marsha:
> 
> I'm not buying into the idea that the MoQ should be a form of American 
> Pragmatism unless you come up with a convincing argument the American version 
> of Zen Buddhism is a form of American Pragmatism,
> 
> Andre:
> The way you put it is wrong Marsha and I wonder if you have even skimmed my 
> post dated March 7. I suggest you read it again. And whilst you're at it read 
> dmb's as well, and Adrie's and Ian's.
> 
> And, whilst you're at that; have yourself convinced by Pirsig: The MOQ is a 
> continuation of the mainstream of twentieth-century American philosophy. It 
> is a form of pragmatism, of instrumentalism, which says that the test of the 
> true is the good. It adds that this good is not a social code or some 
> intellectualized Hegelian Absolute. It is direct everyday experience.(LILA, p 
> 373)
> 
> I add that your 'Zen Buddhism is a form of American Pragmatism' is not 
> correct and this has never been claimed to be the case or stated anywhere. 
> You should perhaps change it into; The MOQ is a Western (call it American if 
> you like) version of Zen Buddhism. As Anthony suggests in his PhD: [the MOQ] 
> is one of the first indigenous forms of Zen Buddhism to appear in the United 
> States. (p 3).
> 
> And I fail to see the use of trying to push this on and on and on. I really 
> believe most contributors are clear on this, excepting Mary and you. What's 
> your game? Trying to score points or do you just like the attention?
> 
> It is reaching the yawning stage.
> 
> 
> 
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