Some days ago John and Dave had this exchange: John Well, not to get all argumentative about it dave, but like gallileo says, when something simply is, it is. And that's all there is to it.
DMB describing static patterns as "ever-changing" is about as wrong as it gets. John Absolutely every single particle of this cosmos in which we dwell, IS ever-changing, shifting and becoming something different through time. And even our ideas about it evolve and shift, so those aren't absolute neither. In fact, I thought this was your big bugaboo against idealism's postulation of an absolute? That there ain't no such animal. Isn't that a given? The only thing that is constant, is change. Ian says - John, you are being argumentative, and it seems deliberately to miss the point of the MoQ. Yes - the only "thing" that is constant is change. I've used the phrase myself many times in everyday and work contexts - may even be a chapter title of my masters dissertation ? Yes every "particle" in the universe is in motion or some state of flux. But that's "things" (objects / subjects) in the SOMist world, not static patterns. Static patterns are static in so far as the relations, even dynamic relations between dynamic things are static patterns of quality in those relations. You may need to look at patterns upon patterns to find the static quality, but when you find them they are static patterns. Yes existing patterns evolve and new patterns emerge, but they are static compared to the interactions of the subjects and objects involved. Ian On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:45 PM, John Carl <[email protected]> wrote: > Well, not to get all argumentative about it dave, but like gallileo says, > when something simply is, it is. And that's all there is to it. > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
