Hello everyone On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 8:22 AM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ron said to Dan: > This part has me confused about how Pirsigs Ideas about the expansion of > reason fits together with this interpretation. The only time we are truly > free is when one over comes intellectual stuckness. To say that true freedom > is freedom from static patterns of value is only speaking about intellectual > patterns to be sure. And I'm not quite sure this squares with the idea of the > expansion of reason. > > dmb says: > The expansion of reason is basically adding a feel for the work, like when > the motorcycle mechanic becomes one with the task. He or she understands the > rational relationship between all the parts, has a feel for the tools and > even acts as a motorcycle scientist test hypotheses and hunches along the way > but he or she also has an artist's feel for the work and he or she cares > enough to get so deeply absorbed and engaged in the task that he or she is > lost in it and becomes one with the bike. > There was an article about this in the Huffington post earlier this year. It > connects peak experience or "flow" experiences to Pirsig's deeply engaged > motorcycle mechanic. > As James so simply and succinctly puts it, the best philosophies and the best > philosophers will bring ALL their faculties to bear, not just logical and > rational thinking. You gotta have that, but it's not enough.
Hi guys, Just a quick note before I have to dash off this morning and show some houses... Stuckness is a good example of killing intellectual patterns to solve a problem. As I've talked before about this to Platt, often times I find myself just plain stuck. I've studied every possible solution; I've tried everything I can think of and nothing works. Frustration mounts. Finally, I just walk away and forget all about the problem. Some days later (or weeks, or even months) I will be doing something and BLAM! a solution to the problem pops into my head Dynamically. And it works! Is that what you are asking, Ron? Thanks, Dan > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
