Marsha:
Considering something having a flaw is not denigration.   Possibly "the 
pretence of science itself to consider itself ‘objective’ (meaning value free)" 
might be considered a flaw. 'Pretense' being a type of pretending.  But, of 
course, the MoQ rectifies this by demonstrating that this 'objective' pretence 
is untrue.  




On May 17, 2011, at 4:39 PM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Marsha:
> Reification represents how the common man and many scientists, academics and 
> even philosophers think.  It evolved as tool to facilitate some kind of 
> betterness.  But it is flawed and of course the MoQ and help rectify the flaw.
> 
> Andre:
> You seem to be having some sort of antagonism towards the way scientists 
> operate. You seem to denigrate them because you seem to be thinking that all 
> their investigations operate from a SOM conviction and are therefore totally 
> misguided, wrong, off the path towards truth.
> From a MOQ perspective may I suggest that the MOQ has no problem at all with 
> scientific findings and their truths?
> 
> Would you allow the idea that some scientists are not at all restricted to 
> this SOM prison ( in fact that they do no know it exists) and feel themselves 
> quite nicely comfortable, nay compelled, to venturing outside of it...and 
> that their ideas and findings are very well accepted by 'conventional' 
> scientific institutions and accept these because they challenge, even though 
> they may not realize or understand the metaphysical implications of it?
> 
> Scientific truths/results/findings keep on stacking themselves. Scientists 
> are not stupid.  And reification is NOT the way they think! It is the way 
> they represent what they see and observe. This is NOT flawed. This is the 
> scientific way of communicating it.
> 
> They are just not philosophers.




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