Marsha to Andre:

I am not denigrating anybody.   I suggest you stop listening to the voice in 
your head.   It doesn't know what I am thinking.

Andre:
This made me chuckle. I read your posts though. What you write is not what you 
think?

Marsha:
Considering something having a flaw is not denigration.   Possibly "the pretence of 
science itself to consider itself ?objective? (meaning value free)" might be 
considered a flaw. 'Pretense' being a type of pretending.  But, of course, the MoQ 
rectifies this by demonstrating that this 'objective' pretence is untrue.

Andre:
This made me laugh. And really wonder where the flaw is situated. YOU keep on 
bringing it up and somehow adhering to it...if I may lump the; language is a 
cage, DQ is a cage, sq is a cage, reification representing how 'the common 
man...think' in with it.

Have you ever considered that Pirsig's version of his MOQ is better that your 
version of his MOQ? Perhaps you could listen to his version some more...and 
we'll forget about the 'pretense'.

Talking about pretense. How the heck do you know what 'the common man' thinks? 
Since you seem to claim that nobody knows what you are thinking. Who the heck 
do you think you are? (don't bother answering this Marsha...an ever changing 
blah blah blah.)

Marsha:
The term 'many' as in my phrase "many scientists" represents a particular 
affirmative not a universal affirmative.  So, of course, not all scientists have a 
subject-object metaphysical view.

Andre:
Now I am on the floor of course remembering the bucket.


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