"MOQ response: Quite simply; because science (and the ‘doing’ of science) has considered itself to be value-free, as this is in many ways considered to be a measure of its ‘objectivity’…of its ‘truthfulness’…its ‘purity’. It has built around itself an almost impenetrable immune system to the exclusion of morals.
>From the perspective of a conventional subject-object science (and for that >matter philosophy, whose insights are [usually] based on scientific >‘discoveries’) the world is a completely purposeless, valueless place. Nothing >is right, nothing is wrong..." (An Open Letter By Andre Broersen To Sam Harris) Andre, And you do not see "impenetrable immune system to the exclusion of morals." a flaw, an imperfection? Marsha On May 19, 2011, at 4:07 AM, MarshaV wrote: > > > A flaw is just an imperfection. > > > > On May 19, 2011, at 4:02 AM, MarshaV wrote: > >> >> >> >> On May 17, 2011, at 2:12 PM, david buchanan wrote: >>> dmb says: >>> Denigrating actual experience is not to be distinguished FROM the >>> reification problem. It's a feature OF the problem. >> >> On May 18, 2011, at 2:05 PM, david buchanan wrote: >>> dmb says: >>> This denigration goes all the way back to the nonsense that says intellect >>> doesn't HAVE a flaw called SOM but rather it IS the flaw called >>> subject-object metaphysics. >> >> >> Marsha: >> What if I put it that reification (expanded definition) is a feature OF of >> Intellectual patterns? >> >> >> >> >> ___ ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
