On Jun 2, 2011, at 3:24 PM, david buchanan wrote:

> dmb says:
> I just dished up your thoughts on reification and explained the objections. 
> You "understanding in its entirety" is incoherent. It is a series of 
> contradictions, of mutually exclusive claims.
> 
> You can't say that reification is "interdependent with the conceptualization 
> process" or simply "conceptualization reifies" AND also say that concepts are 
> necessary to act in the world.

Marsha: 
I didn't use the word IS, that is your misrepresenting my statement.  I 
"suggested" that reification was either a part of the conceptualization 
process, or that there was a interdependency between conceptualization and 
reification.  


> dmb:
> You can't say reification is inescapable AND also say it is a tendency that 
> may occur.

Marsha:
It was Wallace that used the word 'tendency,' but to quote him properly he 
stated 'natural tendency.'   Look up the word 'natural.'    And I did not use 
the word 'inescapable.'   I did use the word 'escape' when I was describing to 
John a personal experience.  


> dmb:
> Those are contradictory claims.

Marsha:
So far, it is your exaggeration and misrepresentation that comprise any 
contradiction.   


> dmb:
> Reification is a conceptual error, one we want to correct because of the 
> vital importance and value of concepts or concepts themselves are inescapably 
> doomed to reify experience and we ought to kill the intellect because its a 
> prison.

Marsha:
This is one wild sentence that doesn't make sense to me.  ---   I can assure 
you that I never stated that 'one should kill the intellect because it is a 
prison.'  I defy you to find where I made such a statement.  Again, you have 
combined two statements out-ofo-context to misrepresent what I've said.  


> dmb:
> These are wildly opposed claims and you want to say them both at the same 
> time. That's what I mean by calling saying your view is incoherent. For the 
> millionth time.

Marsha:
And this statement is why I don't care much about your opinion on yourself or 
your opinion of James.  I find you intellectual integrity very low-grade.  




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