On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 10:16 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > On Jul 4, 2011, at 2:30 AM, 118 wrote: > >> Hi Marsha, >> >> On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 9:49 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> On Jul 3, 2011, at 11:25 AM, 118 wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Marsha, >>>> >>>> As you know, Buddha did not write anything. Neither did Socrates or >>>> Jesus. So, all we have are interpretations by others of what he is >>>> claimed to have said. This is important since it was claimed to be >>>> recognized by Buddha that words only delimit. >>>> >>>> I am not quite sure what you mean by intuition. Is it instinct? >>>> Perhaps intuition is shared awareness. I have sensed that something >>>> was happening to someone I cared about. >>> >>> Marsha: >>> No this is not what I meant. Mindfulness is what I meant. Where the good >>> is unfolding, naturally. That is what I mean. >> >> [Mark] >> OK, gotcha. I also call this living entirely in the present, or living in >> DQ. > > > Marsha: > I am reluctant to say that is 'living in DQ'; mindfulness, or awareness seems > a good description. I've had what I would call unpatterned experiences, and > I wouldn't even call them DQ experiences.
[Mark] Yes, difficult to wrap in words because then you hide it. But, this appears to be what Pirsig is talking about in terms of DQ. I have no idea what an unpatterned experience is. Doesn't experience denote a pattern? DQ experiences, that might be a good way to put it, but take away the plural since it is continuous. Maybe what you mean is a pattern that has no confines. Is that it? > > >>>> I listen to the birds every morning when I wake up. This is a form of >>>> shared awareness for by listening I create. >>> >>> When Siegfried was able to understand the birdsong, he was in >>> tune with intuition. "The woodbird now sings of a woman sleeping >>> on a rock surrounded by magic fire. Siegfried, wondering if he can >>> learn fear from this woman, heads toward the mountain." Don't you >>> just love it!!! >> >> You might like the Wind-up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami. It is >> an intense but rewarding read. After reading that, I read all his >> other books. >> >> Here is a link to a review: >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/books/97/11/02/reviews/971102.02jamest.html > > Marsha: > I'll give the book a try. Speaking of music, the other day I was listening to > Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, and I couldn't help think of entering into the > music as a river. [Mark] Yes, I love it, especially the last part. Pretty rough river aye? > > > Marsha > >> >> Mark >> >> Cheers, >>>> Mark >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
