Hi Marsha, On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 1:03 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >
> Marsha: > I use the expression 'unpatterned experiences' with exactness. They > were multiple experiences and they were experiences without visual or > conceptual pattern. There was presence. There is nothing else for me > to say. These experiences were very different from mindfulness. [Mark] I think I know what you mean, the same thing happens to me, but I do relate it to the moment. It is like a warm wind that passes through me. There are dark winds as well, as Camus refers to in The Plague. > > > Marsha: > The last part is a chorus singing Ode to Joy. I am the white water. I am > joy. [Mark] Yes, one of the first things I learned on the piano, mainly because it is so easy to make it sound good. > > But I love the Overture to Parsifal and Bach's Bist du bel mir. I often > think of > RMP's talking about losing interest in a piece of music, a record I think, but > surely he was not talking about Beethoven, Bach, or Wagner, or any of the > other music that lifts you to mountain tops or the ocean's depth. When I > first > met my husband, he brought me a record of the Concierto of Aranjuez. I > closed my eyes and it was as if I was there. I saw those little white towns > snuggled within the changing landscapes as clearly as if I had been a bird > flying over them. I knew Spain long before I visited there. [Mark] I think we have had this discussion before. I was forced to many operas before I was 10 years old. My parents were Wagner freaks who traveled the world to see his operas. So, I like Wagner without words, the rest is too heavy for me. There was much dark about Wagner. Now Mahler, well that is another story altogether. I love his 7th symphony. And then there is Schubert's unfinished 7th symphony. Truly wonderful. I also like Joachin Rodrigo, although the Aranjuez was played so much during my college years in the 70's that I can not listen to it much these days. I like the flamenco guitar of today. The Gypsy Kings set the stage, but there are so many better groups out there, that I cannot keep up with them. There is a lot of female power in flamenco, don't you think? Adios, mark > > > Marsha > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
