Marsha said to dmb: I have no desire to discuss free-will or determinism with you, and I have no desire to play Whack-A-Mole.
dmb says: Ahh, but are you really free to act on that lack of desire to act? Or are you determined to evade responsibility for your contradictory claims? To truly understand what I'm saying, you have to negate all my statements so that the meaning is reversed and then negate that reversal so that you come right back to the original statement but with an altered meaning and context wherein everything is both true and not true at the same time. See? For me, it's all about me, me, me and everyone know that I'm so enlightened and deep and profound that coherence and logical consistency just aren't for me, me, me and words only ever mean whatever they happen to mean to me at any given moment. Cause that's how I roll, baby, One minute, Marsha says: In the MoQ, there is no subject and there are no objects. If there is no subject - if there is no self - then there is no subject/self to have freedom of the will, and likewise, there is no subject/self who has a life that is determined. The issue is meaningless. The next minute Marsha says: For me, the MoQ's self is a collection of ever-changing, interrelated, impermanent, static patterns of inorganic, biological, social and intellectual value in a field of Dynamic Quality. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html