Dmb, Your explanations are preconceived patterns, you necessity for free-will is based on a pattern, patterns based on previous conclusions.
My posts are based on a language: subject, predicate and object. Sorry. That's the best I can do But my understanding of the MoQ is based more on experience than the text, and the experiences (mediation/mindfulness, for example) I am unable to share. Marsha On Jul 18, 2011, at 12:48 PM, david buchanan wrote: > > Marsha said to dmb: > > I have no desire to discuss free-will or determinism with you, and I have no > desire to play Whack-A-Mole. > > > dmb says: > Ahh, but are you really free to act on that lack of desire to act? Or are you > determined to evade responsibility for your contradictory claims? > To truly understand what I'm saying, you have to negate all my statements so > that the meaning is reversed and then negate that reversal so that you come > right back to the original statement but with an altered meaning and context > wherein everything is both true and not true at the same time. > > See? For me, it's all about me, me, me and everyone know that I'm so > enlightened and deep and profound that coherence and logical consistency just > aren't for me, me, me and words only ever mean whatever they happen to mean > to me at any given moment. Cause that's how I roll, baby, > > > One minute, Marsha says: > > In the MoQ, there is no subject and there are no objects. If there is no > subject - if there is no self - then there is no subject/self to have freedom > of the will, and likewise, there is no subject/self who has a life that is > determined. The issue is meaningless. > > > The next minute Marsha says: > For me, the MoQ's self is a collection of ever-changing, interrelated, > impermanent, static patterns of inorganic, biological, social and > intellectual value in a field of Dynamic Quality. > ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
