On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:07 PM, David Thomas wrote:
> On 7/21/11 9:29 PM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So please do not make any apology for Buddhism, Exploring the MoQ together
>> with Buddhism is very valid.
>
> Dave
> I'm not making any apologies for Buddhism. And I'm surely not challenging
> the validity of exploring them together. How could I? The MoQ is Zen in a
> Pendleton blanket. Most, not all, but most of the confusion in the MoQ is
> the confusion with and within Buddhism. The MoQ it is an attempt by a
> Westerner with a tiny amount of Eastern experience and smidgen of Zen
> experience to rewrite Zen in a way that is palatable to the Western mind. It
> seem to be working for you, but as you are aware you are in a minority here.
>
> As for me I'm not looking for a new religion. The old ones have such a
> dismal track record I just can't see making the same mistakes all over
> again.
>
Marsha:
Today there are, intelligent Buddhist scholars that present Buddhist
philosophical
ideas clearly and succinctly for Westerners. I think it is more in keeping
with the
MoQ to learn something new than rehash the already known. And meditation,
concentration and mindfulness techniques offer first-hand empirical experiences
for validation, rather than just words. It is a shame that I am a minority.
It has been
said that the shift from a subject-object reality to a Quality reality takes
more than
intellectually understanding the words on a page. While there is a religious
aspect
to Buddhism, to become a Buddhist is not to accept a bundle of doctrines and
dogma on the basis of faith. You are NOT suppose to accept claims based on
what the Buddha said, but are to examine the arguments and determine for
yourself if the arguments are true. There is no place for psychological
bullies
within Buddhism.
Buddhism does have cultural trappings to watch out for, but they are more
likely to be questioned by a Westerner. And lets face it, the West comes with
its own set of cultural glasses which often blindsight us to a new more dynamic
perspective. Science, for instance, may be more accepted dogma than fresh
investigation. I am trying say that Buddhism is much, much more than a
religion.
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