Andre,  

This seems an interesting way to change the subject of free-will & determinism 
without dmb conceding to Steve's argument.  


Marsha 





On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:37 AM, Andre Broersen wrote:

> Andre to Dave:
> Just another insert Dave. When I talked about "Leave it in the weather for a 
> number of years and yeah, the changes are noticeable because dynamic 
> influences occur at subatomic levels all the time. But for pragmatic reasons 
> the notion of using 'ever changing' when you mean 'stable' or 'static' is 
> confusing because misleading"... I should also have added the 'forces' of 
> regeneration, the stabilizing quality to latch the advances made. It are 
> these repeated patterns that make them stable, recognizable.
> 
> To add to the confusion Marsha has gotten herself into is that she now denies 
> DQ as being change. She says: "I consider DQ to be indeterminate - 
> unknowable, undefinable, and undividable - unpatterned".
> 
> Now, on its own this is a bit more like it. BUT she still considers DQ=sq and 
> sq=DQ. She has said so repeatedly. She considers herself to be an ever 
> changing pattern of...within a stable whatever. You work it out Dave because 
> I can't anymore.
> 
> I agree with dmb: "sigh".


 
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