Mark said:
... the best way to have control over others, is to make them indebted to you.  
Why do you think Obama is giving away so much money?


Dan replied:
I didn't know he was. GWB stole two elections, took a multi-trillion dollar 
budget surplus and turned it into a multi-trillion dollar budget deficit, and 
he did it all in eight short years with two needless wars in deserts half-way 
around the world and by giving billionaires enormous tax breaks. Oh yeah, I 
forgot... it's all Obama's fault.



dmb says:

We've seen the same pattern repeat for at least thirty years and the motive 
behind it is, basically, to starve the beast. The conservatives have been 
working to dismantle FDR's New Deal legacy since it's inception. (Pirsig gives 
us the MOQ's reading on this struggle as a conflict between social and 
intellectual values, as you likely recall.) So the strategy adopted by Reagan 
and used ever since is to explode the deficit to create a financial emergency 
so that cuts in "socialist" programs can be justified. 

It's really quite simple. Deficits are the result of an imbalance between 
revenues and expenditures, between taxing and spending. So the Republicans 
simply create deficits by cutting taxes. They love to cut taxes. They've all 
taken a pledge to never ever raise taxes. Look up Grover Norquist He's the 
pledge leader. Says he doesn't want to shrink the government down to nothing. 
He just wants to shrink it down so that it's small enough to drown in the 
bathtub. In his analogy, government is an unwanted little kitten, I guess. 

Anyway, if budget deficits and surpluses over the last thirty years were 
displayed on a graph, you'd be amazed how obvious it is. It's not just a 
tendency either. The lines go up and down quite steeply. We went from a record 
surplus to a record deficit, from the highest ever to the lowest ever, in just 
a few short years. Why? To starve the beast. To shrink the government. To undo 
FDR. 

The so-called TEA party has adopted a worldview that supports this 
beast-starving strategy and we see their influence in the current artificial 
crisis over the debt ceiling. Their basic premise is that Obama is a damn 
socialist for bailing out the banks and the people are Taxed Enough Already. 
(I'm not saying this makes any sense. Just reporting on the tea-baggers.) Their 
premise doesn't comport with the fact that taxes haven't been as low as they 
are right now in my lifetime and Bush started the bailouts a couple of months 
before Obama was elected, but they don't seem to care about that. The elected 
politicians who are actually responsible for the current flirtation with 
national default are the same one's who insist that the deficit can only be 
balanced by spending cuts. They refuse to even consider one dime from the 
revenue side, by raising taxes, not even on new corporate jets. Why? Because 
the whole point is to starve the beast. And thereby increase the power of 
capital.

It has to be said that working class and middle class conservatives have been 
recruited to this cause largely by appealing to their racist instincts. 
American MOQers who are old enough probably remember Reagan's use of the 
mythical "welfare Queen", who supposedly drove a shiny new Cadillac down to the 
welfare office to pick up her giant government checks. See, they have regular 
folks convinced that taxes are too high and government is too big because those 
lazy minority types are living high on the hog. As they see it, big government 
MEANS that they have to pay the rent for some freeloader. Nobody is ever very 
explicit about this, but I grew up around conservatives and went to a 
conservative college and even worked in talk radio for about five years. 
Believe me, I've seen it up close and personal and I've watched this ideology 
in the news constantly for my entire adult lifetime. And it seems to me that 
Pirsig nailed it. It's a neo-Victorian slide backwards, an anti-intellectu
 al reactionary movement. They call it freedom but what they're really pushing 
is unregulated global capitalism. 





                                          
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