Steve, Much earlier in this debate dmb and Steve were looking at recent Sam Harris position on free-will ...
DMB said, "[The] neurological determinism of [Sam Harris] is new to me and I think it's just awful. Patricia Churchland, of all people, has criticized him for crude reductionism. She was harsh. And they're pretty good friends! She says she wishes he had waited a couple years to write that book." I agree with that. I'm a big fan of Sam Harris too, but his recent stuff he was touting round the speaking circuit based on his latest book was ill informed on the brain-science aspects, where he is no expert. His reductionism was too "greedy" to coin a Dennett term. But again, I still can't see what you and dmb are actually disagreeing about when it comes to free-will. I can see in the exchange with John, the problem area may be more with the "we" (our patterns and values) rather than the "will" (which is also our patterns and values) ? Ian Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
