Hi Mark and all,

I have no idea what you accept as a metaphysical principle.  SOM developed
by Aristotle has as a metaphysical principle that existence is twofold.

1.  Objective existence outside of the knowing subject (verifiable as an
object through sense perception).

2.  Subjective, intentional existence, created by the knower, making
communication possible when an object is viewed in the same way.  Knowledge
can be discussed when definitions are established.

IMHO MOQ accepts existence in an evolutionary framework DQ/SQ. Existence is
DQ, an evolving reality, levels in existence.  The first reality, individual
reality, emotion, remains indefinable.  SQ Intellect defines further
structures in existence beyond emotion.


On 8/21/11 9:03 AM, "118" <[email protected]> wrote:

> When Joe speaks of emotions, he gets caught up in a self-referential
> circle.  He defines emotions as indefinable.  Why are they
> indefinable?  Because they are emotions!  I am not sure how far this
> logic will take one.  Logic is structure, it is something we build on
> assumptions.  Such structures can stretch to the stars, or down to the
> atom.  We always begin in the middle of these.


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