Marsha,
The self is independent of the physical world, but not independent of DQ.

Miri is way behind MoQ.  Perhaps you should set her straight.

Mark

On Aug 24, 2011, at 2:39 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
>   "So  if the self lacks realty, it is probably due to its boundedness.  
> Boundedness is that aspect by which a subject's awareness presents itself as 
> part and parcel of an _ontologically unique_ subject with personalised 
> boundaries that separate a _me_, viz., a self, from the rest of the world.  
> It was argued in Chapter 4 that our _sense_ of being a bounded entity, viz., 
> the subject's sense of being _awareness-as-bounded_, is most closely tied up 
> with the role 'personal owner' --- a role that must be assumed before one can 
> identify as a thinker of thoughts or agent of action."
> 
>   (Albahari, Miri, 'Analytical Buddhism: The Two-tiered Illusion of Self ' 
> p.170)   
> 
> 
> Marsha:
> This construction of an illusory autonomous self that is independent of the 
> "rest of the world" seems like second nature, while the actual unbounded 
> witnessing, whether attentive witnessing or inattentive witnessing, is more 
> probably the nexus of the quality event.  It's interesting to speculate that 
> the witnessing, when attended to, is the "the cutting edge of reality".  
> Mindfulness seems to be the skill to develop a keener attentive-witnessing 
> ability.  I guess...   
> 
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