Hi Ham, Right back-at-you! Thanks! If you view the MOQ as physics that is a misinterpretation. If you view the MOQ as nonsense we can discuss it by exposing the validity for the reality hidden to the mathematical logic of physics, metaphysics.
DQ/SQ as a metaphysical statement of defined/undefined reality is more logical and encompassing than SOM Subject/object reality. The base in the theory of knowledge, abstraction, in SOM, has no logical capacity for a multi level principle in reality like evolution. In SOM evolution is irrational. Change the metaphysics! Pirsig's insight, resulting in the DQ/SQ Metaphysics, exposed a logic for DQ/SQ where DQ is indefinable not irrational. MOQ, used a realization of levels in existence beyond the scope of S/O, to explain multi levels in reality. MOQ replaces the logical base for reality in an S/O division in intellect only, to embrace all of reality in levels in existence. If you are going to do metaphysics, do metaphysics! A planet does not exist as a rose exists! The planet has more possibilities, like supporting a rosebush. Definition, beyond opinion, is needed for intelligibility. Faith is usually described as what is beyond intellectual logic, not what is non-existent. Evolution is a new concept. The theory of knowledge in MOQ, repairs a fault line in SOM by proposing evolution, not just sentience/objectivity as reality. In SOM, evolution had no foundation in metaphysics before Pirsig described the wider, more embracing logic in MOQ. IMHO DQ/SQ, proposed reality in an emotional indefinable logic, evolution, followed by an intellectual definable logic S/O. This validated the knowledge of an evolutionary world much broader than the S/O world alone. Evolution is described more clearly as levels in existence, rather than only as S/O reality. Who cares? Metaphysics is not faith-based yet probes more deeply into the knowable than the mathematical logic of Physics. In DQ/SQ logic, insight is an emotional tool that explains what is indefinable not what is irrational. IMHO A Faith-based system Essence, accepts the order S/O, identifying the existence of knowing with the existence of being, instead of accepting as Aquinas did that intentional and real existence do not take up the same space. My brain is not even as big as the moon, and that's not even throwing the universe in for good measure. It proposes that the intentional existence of knowledge mirrors real existence. The bridge is emotions. If it doesn't exist it isn't real. I can sense it unless I am deceived. Proof! Joe On 9/1/11 9:42 PM, "Ham Priday" <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for your thoughts, Joe. I don't mean to be dismissive of your > analysis; it's just that you are intractably tied to an evolutionary thesis > that is incompatible with my philosophy of Essence. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
