Hi dmb,
> Steve replied: > ...It [free will] is not merely the ability to choose or even merely the > ability to rationally deliberate but something that is that and still more. > ...If Pirsig's philosophy is about anything it is about individuals making > quality decisions. What I deny is that agency is equivalent to free will. .. > Free will is agency plus something else. It is the something else (depending > on what someone says it is) that I deny. > > > dmb says: > Plus something else? Steve: Yes, that is what I said. dmb: Why does moral agency have to be something extra behind moral agency? Steve: Why does moral agency have to be something extra behind moral agency? That doesn't make any sense, but free will is not merely the ability to choose. dmb: You are denying a nonsense assertion that nobody made? Steve: Why am I denying a nonsense assertion that nobody made? I'm not. You just aren't reading carefully. dmb: > Why in the world do you suppose that the ability to choose is not free will? > Where did you ever get the idea that there has to be something extra behind > free will in order for it to be free will? Come on, it's asinine. Steve: Where did I ever get the idea that there has to be something extra besides the capacity to choose in order for it to be free will? From the quote you provided from the Stanford encyclopedia... “Free Will” is a philosophical term of art for a PARTICULAR SORT of capacity of rational agents to choose a course of action from among various alternatives. WHICH SORT is the free will sort is what all the fuss is about." Again, it is not merely the capacity to choose, it is the capacity of a RATIONAL agent to choose. And not even merely that capacity but a PARTICULAR SORT of that capacity. . Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
