Arlo,
I stick with Piraig's MoQ. It is you who are way out in left field.  If you 
want to believe you don't exist, be my guest.

If you are only going to converse with those that agree with you, then what the 
fuck are you doing addressing me or Ham?  You need to be in the Mutual 
Admiration Forum, not in any philosophy forum.  If you can't take the heat, 
then take a cold shower my friend.

Mark

On Sep 15, 2011, at 6:20 PM, "ARLO J BENSINGER JR" <[email protected]> wrote:

> [Mark]
> Why don't you do the rest of us a favor and answer Ham's ingenuous question as
> he suggested?  
> 
> [Arlo]
> Because I have no interest in a dialogue he has already decided upon. Is that
> hard for you to comprehend?  
> 
> [Mark]
> As soon as you begin attacking Ham on issues that have nothing of substance 
> and
> have nothing to do with the subject, you look like a complete idiot!  
> 
> [Arlo]
> I wasn't attacking Ham, your kneejerk reaction is idiotic. Ham offers nothing
> but how Pirsig is wrong and "Essentialism" is right. Its been that way since
> day one with him. If you want to play with him, by all means, do so.
> 
> Tell you what, Mark, I can post two dozen quotes from Ham beginning with
> yesterday where he calls Pirsig's philosophy everything from incomprehensible
> to inconsistent. Can you post that many where he had anything positive to say
> about Pirsig's ideas? How far back do you think YOU will have to go? 
> 
> [Mark]
> All evidence points to the presence of a sensible agent as Ham calls it.  To
> deny that is to put your head in the sand!
> 
> [Arlo]
> I deny it. Pirsig denies it. The MOQ denies it. So why the fuck are YOU here?
> Are you looking to redeem the wayward masses as well? Sell us on some
> "individualistic essentialism"? 
> 
> I mean really, if you disagree with the core of his ideas, isn't there a
> Randian or Essentialism forum where you and Ham can give each other's 
> "sensible
> agents" a friendly reach-around?
> 
> 
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