[Ham]
Really, Arlo? If you can explain experience in the absence of a sensible agent, you'll be doing RMP and the rest of us a momentous favor.

[Arlo]
I'm not going to waste time with your disingenous question, Ham. This is like a flat-earther asking for "proof" the earth is round. You've rejected any possible answer before its offered. You're not looking to understand Pirsig, you're looking for yet another soapbox to trumpet your "Essentialism" and its ridiculous "sensible agent". Okay, fair enough, you disagree with Pirsig and you think you're ideas are better. Then why the hell are you here? Why do you waste your time in a forum about a philosophy that denounces your theism and your "sensible agent"? As far as I can tell, about the only reason you have ever demonstrated for being here is to seek "converts" (how's that working out for you?).

Okay, Pirsig wrote you a letter years ago saying he saw similarities between his metaphysics and your "thesis", but in the entire time you've been here you have only condemned the man for not embracing your god (in effect) and its creation of holy man (right, I'm a nihilistic atheist because I find laughable the notion that "Essence" negated itself so its negates (us) could worship it...). I don't care that you are here, but the only thing you do is continuously look for people to convince them Pirsig is wrong. Given that, I have no interest in discussing your "sensible agent" nonsense or any such "Essentialism" theology.

Pirsig's comments about experience are solid enough, and don't need me to expand upon them for you. If you haven't even so much as learned the answer to your question in the years you've been here, the fault lies with you, not with Pirsig or anyone here.



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