>>> >>>> Marsha: >>>> It seems Protagoras was not alone... >>>> >>>> >>>> “It was classic William James, imbued with a sense of the relativism of >>>> all knowledge, a respect for and curiosity about alternative perspectives, >>>> an instinct to analyze clearly and thoroughly but to develop a synthesis >>>> wherever possible, and a conviction that the truth of any idea or thing is >>>> best understood by observing its action in the world. >>>> >>>> http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/masterpiece/americancollection/american/genius/william_bio.html >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >> >> >>> Mark: >>> Knowledge as referring to the intellectual variety is relative. >> >> Marsha: >> I disagree with changing the quote from "all knowledge" to "Knowledge as >> referring to the intellectual variety." >> >> >>> Mark: >>> It is a creation of man that can be analogized to the framework of a house. >>> Everything must fit together for it to "work". >>> However a "home" is not relative to that framework, it is relational. To >>> apply the concept of relativity one must use measurement. How does one >>> measure a "home"? One could be home on the range. If abstract concepts >>> such as home or love or truth are placed in a relative framework, their >>> quality is lost, in my opinion. >> >> Marsha: >> Man is a concept, so what are you actually saying? In your opinion the >> concept's concept is what? >> >> >>> Mark: >>> Of course there is much security living in a world interpreted as relative, >>> but, for me, much of the wonder is lost through continual comparison. We >>> try to remember how we felt last week, and say "now is better", or we keep >>> waiting for the "better". There is no relativity in "the moment"; try to >>> impart some creates the static from the dynamic. Quality is not relative >>> it is relational, for me. But, I would be happy to learn from you what you >>> personally get from the relative point of view. >> >> Marsha: >> We? While I do care that you are happy, your question makes no sense. >> >> >>> Mark: >>> You can provide all the quotes you want, but that will not tell me >>> anything. Use your own words, otherwise this is just a silly exercise in >>> Google Reality Reification (grr...). Oh, and google is relative so that is >>> not the right tool to use to analyze relativity. >> >> Marsha: >> Purrrr...... >> >>
On Oct 26, 2011, at 1:24 AM, 118 wrote > Mark: > Interesting that you disagree since the quotes you provide indicate that you > agree. You are the one who has said that knowledge is of the intellectual > variety in many of your quotes. Did you change your mind. I was simply > pointing out that as you use it in your quote below it is relative. Are you > now saying that it is not relative? I am confused. > > Do you know what the difference between "man" as a concept and "home" as a > concept is? If they are both the same then it is a very flat world. > Sometimes seeing the nuances in speech is difficult, I will try to be simpler > in the future. Unless you are just pulling my leg again. Sometimes I think > you are serious when you are just playing around. > > Mark Hi Mark, Please note also, that you have ignored my questions, as you have also done so many times in the past. Marsha ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
