Hi Marsha, Mark
On Oct 28, 2011, at 9:59 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > My view on Quality is very simple. Reality = Quality(unpatterned > experience/patterned experience). Would you like me to add that the > fundamental nature of static quality is Dynamic Quality. > > > Marsha > > No, that would not work for me, as you know. If saying Quality is exactly the same as saying Reality, then I will have to give this word replacement a try. I will start with some simple metaphysical essays to see if it works. I guess that one of the questions that Pirsig received that started this "Are you teaching quality?" should be changed to "Are you teaching reality?" Who knows, maybe Quality does equal Reality. Maybe we should change the label for our interests to MoR-on your discovery of linguistic equivalence. I am game if every one else is. > > > On Oct 28, 2011, at 11:30 AM, 118 wrote: > >> OK, Marsha. >> Thank you for you reflexive writing, I learned a lot about your views on >> Quality. >> >> Over and out. >> >> Mark >> >> On Oct 27, 2011, at 2:35 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Mark, >>> >>> I'm still waiting for you to answer my questions, but thanks for more of >>> your automatic writing.... >>> >>> >>> Marsha >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 27, 2011, at 4:41 PM, 118 wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Marsha, >>>> Wow, that is a mouthful, thanks for that. I guess it takes a static >>>> bundle of words to present the static. >>>> >>>> If your ever changing is constant, then such a description never changes. >>>> So in term of change, your static never changes, which I guess is why you >>>> describe it as static. A few posts ago I asked you what this change is in >>>> reference to. That is, your processes must change according to something >>>> else. Otherwise your ever changing has no meaning. If I say I am moving >>>> this must be in reference to something else. >>>> >>>> Does the static change with reference to the dynamic? This would be an >>>> interesting idea to explore. I am looking for metaphors which can promote >>>> the interaction between DQ and sq. any ideas? >>>> >>>> Since you seem to have read The Black Swan, you can appreciate that >>>> -predictability only works in hindsight. So your static corresponds to >>>> coyote John's notion of The Past, and DQ being the Future. This would >>>> mean that we live between sq and DQ, or, in the present. What do you >>>> think? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>>> On Oct 27, 2011, at 11:22 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Actually, Mark, here is my definition of static patterns of value: >>>>> >>>>> Static patterns of value are processes: ever-changing, conditionally >>>>> co-dependent, impermanent and conceptualized. Ever-changing processes >>>>> that pragmatically tend to persist and change within a stable, >>>>> predictable pattern. These patterns are categorized into an >>>>> evolutionary, hierarchical structure consisting of four discrete levels: >>>>> inorganic, biological, social and intellectual. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Marsha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 27, 2011, at 1:09 PM, MarshaV wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Mark, >>>>>> >>>>>> I consider static patterns of value from two different points of view. >>>>>> One would be the nature of ALL patterns: interdependent, impermanent, >>>>>> ever-changing and conceptualized. A second would be by categorization >>>>>> according to their evolutionary function: inorganic, biological, social >>>>>> and intellectual. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Marsha >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ___ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>>> Archives: >>>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
