Steve said to Matt:
...Ironically, the direct/indirect distinction that dmb is trying to use to
push against us itself makes the so-called "out of touch with DQ" problem
impossible or at least merely "secondary." If this problem is (as dmb must be
saying) a problem with our concepts, it is merely a "secondary" problem. The
problem of not being in touch with primary experience because of our lousy
ideas can't be a problem for being in touch with primary experience since
primary experience precedes all concepts. ...There can't be any problem in
philosophy as fake as not being in touch with primary experience.
dmb says:
That's exactly wrong. It's interesting, which is nice. But the problem is only
secondary in the sense that it's intellectual and static, but it certainly
isn't unimportant. I mean, the problem is philosophical in the sense that our
philosophies are serving life badly. Of all the things one might worry about,
that's for real. The problem IS a result of "our lousy concepts". And the
solution will naturally involve getting better concepts. The whole point of the
MOQ, as Paul Turner explained so well, is to expand and improve rationality.
The aim is a root expansion of rationality. That's WHY we care about DQ and why
it's so central. It's the key to the expansion of our philosophies.
"Squareness may be succinctly and yet thoroughly defined as an inability to see
quality before it's been intellectually defined, that is, before it gets all
chopped up into words. We have proved that quality, though undefined, exists.
Its existence can be seen empirically in the classroom, and can be demonstrated
logically by showing that a world without it cannot exist as we know it. What
remains to be seen, the thing to be analyzed, is not quality, but those
peculiar habits of thought called 'squareness' that sometime prevent us from
seeing it. Thus did he seek to turn the attack. The subject for analysis, the
patient on the table, was no longer Quality, but analysis itself. Quality was
healthy and in good shape. Analysis, however, seemed to have something wrong
with it that prevented it from seeing the obvious." (ZAMM 218-9)
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