Hi Mark, Marsha: Viva la difference. As I explained, my view of the MoQ: Reality = Quality(Dynamic(unpatterned experience)/static(patterned experience)).
Marsha On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:34 PM, 118 wrote: > Hi Marsha, > I apologize if I come off as complaining. In some circles this is called > healthy debate with rhetoric. > > The reason I may question you equation of Quality and reality, is because > that it may be misleading. Your quote from Pirsig may point that out to you: >> "Quality is the primary reality of the world." > > This statement alone implies that quality and reality are two different > concepts. Quality is being defined through the concept of primary reality. > This is different from Quality being Reality. > > It is easy to be misled by words, one must look beyond them to see Quality. > > We were off the grid for a while due to the wonderful Desert Winds that blow > through here with force at this time of the year. It seems that the lines > are back up now. > > Mark > > On Nov 3, 2011, at 1:39 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> FIRST, sorry for he long delay. I was without power and land-line, cell >> phone service & DSL service because of the storm. All returned this >> afternoon making me one of the lucky few. New Fairfield was 100% off the >> grid and still is 90% off the grid. >> >> >> >> Mark: >> I am only trying to understand your view on Quality, so I do not think it is >> being petty. I thought I was doing a good job. It is words like >> unpatterned that I do not understand. Such a word has no meaning to me in >> the same way that undefined has no meaning, and I keep asking Joe about it. >> So it is not my intent to find fault, and I am disappointed that you would >> think so. >> >> Marsha: >> I explained my view of the MoQ: Reality = Quality(Dynamic(unpatterned >> experience)/static(patterned experience)). >> >> >> Mark: >> That you think that Quality means the same thing as the more commonly used >> word Reality is a bold statement since it means that all the common >> attributes given to Reality can be given to Quality. >> >> Marsha: >> As RMP states: "Quality is the primary reality of the world." >> >> Mark: >> I was simply exploring that. Some day you may stop being so defensive and >> we can have a real conversation, or not. >> >> Marsha: >> Yet, you, on your part, ignore questions that I put to you. >> >> And you complained of my use of the word "reality" in a discussion about >> metaphysics, a subject which asks basic questions about reality. And you >> yourself not too long ago wrote "The dimensionality of space cannot be >> discarded in metaphysics, since it creates our reality." I think your >> complaining, and you are beginning to sound like one of the complaining sock >> puppets, is hypocritical. >> >> By what standards of intellectual discourse do you write? >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
