OK Marsha, you'll get over that hill when you want to. You can stay stuck until you are not. Keep up the good work!
Cheers, Mark On Nov 3, 2011, at 3:07 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > Marsha: > Viva la difference. As I explained, my view of the MoQ: Reality = > Quality(Dynamic(unpatterned experience)/static(patterned experience)). > > > Marsha > > > > On Nov 3, 2011, at 5:34 PM, 118 wrote: > >> Hi Marsha, >> I apologize if I come off as complaining. In some circles this is called >> healthy debate with rhetoric. >> >> The reason I may question you equation of Quality and reality, is because >> that it may be misleading. Your quote from Pirsig may point that out to >> you: >>> "Quality is the primary reality of the world." >> >> This statement alone implies that quality and reality are two different >> concepts. Quality is being defined through the concept of primary reality. >> This is different from Quality being Reality. >> >> It is easy to be misled by words, one must look beyond them to see Quality. >> >> We were off the grid for a while due to the wonderful Desert Winds that blow >> through here with force at this time of the year. It seems that the lines >> are back up now. >> >> Mark >> >> On Nov 3, 2011, at 1:39 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> FIRST, sorry for he long delay. I was without power and land-line, cell >>> phone service & DSL service because of the storm. All returned this >>> afternoon making me one of the lucky few. New Fairfield was 100% off the >>> grid and still is 90% off the grid. >>> >>> >>> >>> Mark: >>> I am only trying to understand your view on Quality, so I do not think it >>> is being petty. I thought I was doing a good job. It is words like >>> unpatterned that I do not understand. Such a word has no meaning to me in >>> the same way that undefined has no meaning, and I keep asking Joe about it. >>> So it is not my intent to find fault, and I am disappointed that you would >>> think so. >>> >>> Marsha: >>> I explained my view of the MoQ: Reality = Quality(Dynamic(unpatterned >>> experience)/static(patterned experience)). >>> >>> >>> Mark: >>> That you think that Quality means the same thing as the more commonly used >>> word Reality is a bold statement since it means that all the common >>> attributes given to Reality can be given to Quality. >>> >>> Marsha: >>> As RMP states: "Quality is the primary reality of the world." >>> >>> Mark: >>> I was simply exploring that. Some day you may stop being so defensive and >>> we can have a real conversation, or not. >>> >>> Marsha: >>> Yet, you, on your part, ignore questions that I put to you. >>> >>> And you complained of my use of the word "reality" in a discussion about >>> metaphysics, a subject which asks basic questions about reality. And you >>> yourself not too long ago wrote "The dimensionality of space cannot be >>> discarded in metaphysics, since it creates our reality." I think your >>> complaining, and you are beginning to sound like one of the complaining >>> sock puppets, is hypocritical. >>> >>> By what standards of intellectual discourse do you write? >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> >>> >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > > > ___ > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
