Ron, are you omniscient?  Do you know what's in my heart?  Do you know what is 
in my mind?  I'm thinking of a number between 1 and 100, what number would that 
be Ron?  



On Nov 4, 2011, at 9:30 AM, X Acto wrote:

> Thats a type of freedom one enjoys when they dont give a fuk about
> anyone but themselves.
>  
> the bait is tasty and enticing as always..mmmm sweet!
>  
>  
> 
> From: MarshaV <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 8:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [MD] It's a trap
> 
> 
> Hello Ron,
> 
> Mark would have me mirror his words.  You too?  That's an obvious gumption 
> trap.  Or to frame a discussion in words like 'trashing', 'denigrating' and 
> 'revenge-attitude'.  
> 
> Mark prefers his "automatic writing".  That's great for him.  -  I prefer to 
> speak in my own voice.  That's a type of freedom when you are not a member of 
> the boy's club.  
> 
> 
> Marsha
> 
>   ---  
> 
> THE HONEY TREE
>         by Mary Oliver
> 
> And so at last I climbed
> the honey tree, ate
> chunks of pure light, ate
> the bodies of bees that could not
> get out of my way, ate
> the dark hair of the leaves,
> the rippling bark,
> the heartwood. Such
> frenzy! But joy does that,
> I’m told, in the beginning.
> Later, maybe,
> I’ll come here only
> sometimes and with a
> middling hunger. But now
> I climb like a snake,
> I clamber like a bear to
> the nuzzling place, to the light
> salvaged by the thighs
> of bees and racked up
> in the body of the tree.
> Oh, anyone can see
> how I love myself at last!
> how I love the world! climbing
> by day or night
> in the wind, in the leaves, kneeling
> at the secret rip, the cords
> of my body stretching
> and singing in the
> heaven of appetite.
> 
>           ---  
> 
> 
> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:11 AM, X Acto wrote:
> 
>> Marsha:
>> I think your complaining, and you are beginning to sound like one of the 
>> complaining sock puppets, is hypocritical.  
>> 
>> By what standards of intellectual discourse do you write?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Mark,
>> Marsha, the name reffering to an everchanging pattern of Quality that has no
>> existence, is a intellectual trap.
>> 
>> Any pattern that has no existence is a pattern that has no meaning, thus 
>> "marsha"
>> is a false dilemma.
>> 
>> The pattern will call for clarity and supply none.
>> 
>> The pattern will call for standards and abide by none.
>> 
>> The more one attempts to "reason" politely the more one is ridiculed for 
>> trying.
>> 
>> A Gumption trap to be sure, layed out masterfully as intellecual bait. 
>> 
>> Irrestistable to the unknowing  intellectual, the pattern will ever entice.
>> 
>> ....
> 
> 
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