Mark, Oh my, Is that the truth?
It's a conventional (static) statement and not an absolute statement, so there is no contradiction. Marsha On Nov 6, 2011, at 10:46 AM, 118 wrote: > Marsha, > > > On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:48 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Mark, >> >> It is quite easy for me to look beyond YOUR words to experience >> Quality(Dynamic/static). Your cultural immune system may not understand >> this. Possibly it is you who should reread RMP's books. >> >> What of yours do you think I need to get? > > That I am not giving you any truths. > > Mark >> >> Marsha >> >> >> On Nov 4, 2011, at 7:32 PM, 118 wrote: >> >>> Marsha, >>> The fact that you think I want you to "mirror" my words shows that you have >>> no idea what I am talking about. The words are trivial when it comes to >>> Quality; there are a million ways to say the same thing. Just read the >>> books by Pirsig on the subject of words. >>> >>> As Aquinas is said to have uttered after he had a spiritual awakening, >>> "...because all that I have written seems like straw to me", and he never >>> finished the Summa Theologica. One of the greatest syntheses of Religion >>> and Aristotelian logic. >>> >>> Do you get it now? >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 5:34 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Hello Ron, >>>> >>>> Mark would have me mirror his words. You too? That's an obvious gumption >>>> trap. Or to frame a discussion in words like 'trashing', 'denigrating' >>>> and 'revenge-attitude'. >>>> >>>> Mark prefers his "automatic writing". That's great for him. - I prefer >>>> to speak in my own voice. That's a type of freedom when you are not a >>>> member of the boy's club. >>>> >>>> >>>> Marsha >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> THE HONEY TREE >>>> by Mary Oliver >>>> >>>> And so at last I climbed >>>> the honey tree, ate >>>> chunks of pure light, ate >>>> the bodies of bees that could not >>>> get out of my way, ate >>>> the dark hair of the leaves, >>>> the rippling bark, >>>> the heartwood. Such >>>> frenzy! But joy does that, >>>> I’m told, in the beginning. >>>> Later, maybe, >>>> I’ll come here only >>>> sometimes and with a >>>> middling hunger. But now >>>> I climb like a snake, >>>> I clamber like a bear to >>>> the nuzzling place, to the light >>>> salvaged by the thighs >>>> of bees and racked up >>>> in the body of the tree. >>>> Oh, anyone can see >>>> how I love myself at last! >>>> how I love the world! climbing >>>> by day or night >>>> in the wind, in the leaves, kneeling >>>> at the secret rip, the cords >>>> of my body stretching >>>> and singing in the >>>> heaven of appetite. >>>> >>>> --- >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 4, 2011, at 8:11 AM, X Acto wrote: >>>> >>>>> Marsha: >>>>> I think your complaining, and you are beginning to sound like one of the >>>>> complaining sock puppets, is hypocritical. >>>>> >>>>> By what standards of intellectual discourse do you write? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark, >>>>> Marsha, the name reffering to an everchanging pattern of Quality that has >>>>> no >>>>> existence, is a intellectual trap. >>>>> >>>>> Any pattern that has no existence is a pattern that has no meaning, thus >>>>> "marsha" >>>>> is a false dilemma. >>>>> >>>>> The pattern will call for clarity and supply none. >>>>> >>>>> The pattern will call for standards and abide by none. >>>>> >>>>> The more one attempts to "reason" politely the more one is ridiculed for >>>>> trying. >>>>> >>>>> A Gumption trap to be sure, layed out masterfully as intellecual bait. >>>>> >>>>> Irrestistable to the unknowing intellectual, the pattern will ever >>>>> entice. >>>>> >>>>> .... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> >>>> >>>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>>> Archives: >>>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >>> Moq_Discuss mailing list >>> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >>> Archives: >>> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >>> http://moq.org/md/archives.html >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
