Mark:
Can you imagine a place where you are given presents every day?  Where someone 
gives you rules with a twinkle in their eyes.  Where the order of the day is to 
Ho, Ho, Ho.  Can you imagine a place where it is Christmas every day?  Such a 
place does exist, and it is not as foreign as you may think.  In fact you could 
say it is not foreign at all.  Just drop your baggage you do not need it where 
you are going to be. 

Ron:
I think THAT is exactly the sort of baggage of reward/punishment that is placed 
in
a hypothetical entity that gives one rules that is the problem with God AND 
christmas in general.
When people start doing Santa's work of weeding out the naughty from the nice, 
when they are
disapointed in the presents they get are not the presents they asked 
for...gosh..it's not foriegn
 it's just an immature undeveloped selfish conception of the good.

On Nov 26, 2011, at 1:25 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:

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> 
> 
> I try to understand, that god IS "good" and in that way I can use the word.
> But
> That is usually not the typical conception
> 
> the typical conception is a kind of santa clause fantasy and the arguement
> lies in the meaning of the word in the common contextual way.
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