Hi Ron,

Yes, I agree. There is no hypothetical entity.  We make the rules.

Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
Mark

On Nov 27, 2011, at 7:47 AM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Mark:
> Can you imagine a place where you are given presents every day?  Where 
> someone gives you rules with a twinkle in their eyes.  Where the order of the 
> day is to Ho, Ho, Ho.  Can you imagine a place where it is Christmas every 
> day?  Such a place does exist, and it is not as foreign as you may think.  In 
> fact you could say it is not foreign at all.  Just drop your baggage you do 
> not need it where you are going to be. 
> 
> Ron:
> I think THAT is exactly the sort of baggage of reward/punishment that is 
> placed in
> a hypothetical entity that gives one rules that is the problem with God AND 
> christmas in general.
> When people start doing Santa's work of weeding out the naughty from the 
> nice, when they are
> disapointed in the presents they get are not the presents they asked 
> for...gosh..it's not foriegn
>  it's just an immature undeveloped selfish conception of the good.
> 
> On Nov 26, 2011, at 1:25 PM, X Acto <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I try to understand, that god IS "good" and in that way I can use the word.
>> But
>> That is usually not the typical conception
>> 
>> the typical conception is a kind of santa clause fantasy and the arguement
>> lies in the meaning of the word in the common contextual way.
>> 
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