Hi Mark, On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:41 PM, 118 wrote: > Hello Marsha, > > On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:52 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: >> Greetings Mark, >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Dec 1, 2011, at 12:51 AM, 118 <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Mark: >>> What I was trying to say about quantum mechanics is that it is a >>> mathematical description of matter. The notion that matter is >>> non-local arises from how the math is used. Therefore non-locality is >>> not a result of matter actually being non-local, it is a result of the >>> math used to describe it. The problem with physicists (imo) is that >>> they think that the math equations actually ARE matter. >> >> Marsha: >> Patterns are ever-changing, conditionally codependent, impermanent and >> conceptually constructed, whether intellectual, social, biological or >> inorganic. Within the quantum world, there is the measurement problem. And >> hope for interconnectedness. > > [Mark] > As you know, I have a problem with "patterns" since it seem to rigid > for me. In my opinion, patterns arise after conceptualization. This > would draw a line between DQ and conceptualization, which I do not > believe is quite accurate. But, that is just me. >
Marsha: Here is my understanding of patterns. Please note, though I state that all patterns are conceptualized, that does not mean that patterns are conceptual (all concepts). For I do not. Patterns may very well, at the very least, have a perceptual piece. Here it is again: I think it best to consider static patterns of value from two different points of view. One would be the nature of all patterns: conditionally co-dependent, impermanent, ever-changing and conceptualized. A second would be by categorization by evolutionary function - inorganic, biological, social and intellectual – into their four-level, hierarchical structure. ___ Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
