Hi Mark,
On Dec 17, 2011, at 11:54 AM, 118 wrote:
> Marsha, how, specifically, does this relate to DQ, sq, and the levels of MoQ?
Marsha:
It is my opinion that Quality, or DQ, corresponds to Buddhism's Sunyata, or
Emptiness, and that relationship has been established in Anthony's PhD and the
MoQ Textbook:
"The Dynamic Quality viewpoint of the MOQ corresponds to the notion of sunyata
or nothingness as understood by Nagarjuna (a Mahayana Buddhist philosopher)
while the static quality viewpoint (sammuti-sacca) of the MOQ corresponds to
sunyavada (i.e. the conditioned component or world of maya)."
(McWatt, Anthony, 'A Critical Analysis of Robert Pirsig’s Metaphysics of
Quality')
So I find it worth considering what the Buddhist's have to say about Emptiness,
and what this particular presentation says about the importance of realizing
Emptiness, or Dynamic Quality. I find it a very thoughtful presentation.
Marsha
>
> Sent laboriously from an iPhone,
> Mark
>
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 2:22 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> "We live in a confusion. The world does not exist the way it appears to.
>> Sensory appearances give the impression that objects stand as separate
>> things. Conceptual language powerfully deepens this surface impression and
>> infuses the sense of a concrete, independent nature into what it names,
>> including a self. By an early age, a view of the world as a collection of
>> distinct entities is deeply assumed. To conceive of phenomena as existing
>> in of of themselves and empowered by their own essential nature is very the
>> target of refutation on the path of emptiness teachings. This absence of
>> inherent existence is referred to as emptiness and when realized, one sees
>> all phenomena “as like moons in water.
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>> "Central to emptiness teachings is the importance of refuting the existence
>> of an inherent self. This sense of an inherent self is usually seen as a
>> distinct entity that can be assigned an individual value, that is born and
>> dies and that steers itself through life of its own volition. When this
>> self is thoroughly investigated using emptiness meditation, it is realized
>> that no such self, no such inherent containment or separation can be found.
>> This realization transfers to all phenomena. The illusion of inherent
>> existence is then revealed like the magician who knows his or her own
>> tricks. One comes to see that the way conceptual language projects the
>> independent appearance of things is a deeply conditioned, but unnecessary
>> misconception.
>>
>> "In realizing that an intrinsic self and other phenomena cannot be found to
>> exist in and of themselves, one sees that there is nothing to defend or
>> attach to. There is the recognition that you are everyone and that everyone
>> is you and so, the realization of emptiness is the realization of
>> compassion, the outcome of its wisdom. One sees that even emptiness is
>> empty of absolute existence so arrives the realization that there is no
>> inherent separation to be found, no mountaintop view, no ultimate truth to
>> be claimed, including a “view from nowhere.” There is no leaving
>> nonduality, as all is a web of dependent interrelatedness. And with the
>> realization that there is no true place to stand, arrives the deep
>> conviction that there is no place to fall."
>>
>> http://www.emptinessteachings.com/Emptiness.html
>>
>>
>>
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