Marsha to Andre:

I am not presenting any statements about meditation or zazen, which I consider 
and experience as a different set of techniques/practices.

There are many different types of meditation.  I use primarily two:  
concentration on breath and watching thoughts pass through mind without 
attachment.

Andre:
And now you are arguing that different techniques give you different results when it 
comes to the contemplative and the absorption techniques/practices? There are subtle 
differences but not as obvious as you claim. But hey! Think that you have lost yourself! 
Keep on floating up with the daisies. You keep telling me: "I insist there is to 
I!" well then Marsha...be my guest. But keep it to yourself!

Only stipulation is that it is unwise to argue from there that, in Pirsig's 
MOQ, DQ and sq are one and the same thing. This, as far as the MOQ as a static 
intellectual pattern of value is concerned, is not a helpful move.

Marsha:
Should we trade bibliographies?

Andre:
You asked for quotes and I suggested some reading. I did not mean to impress 
you or anything. Not take away from the reading you, obviously, have done for 
yourself. I was only suggesting that most of not all wisdom traditions do not 
support your claim. That is all. And I do not need to explain to you then one 
of the differences between Hinayana and Mahayana teachings.

Be happy.


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