Hi Joe, It was "nature red in tooth and claw" kind-of stuff and, yes, he might have been a grumbler. I am not, at least not normally, to any great extent, but sometimes. It doesn't sound like you are either, but the 'dark night of the soul' is not uncommon for people digging deeper into the nature of reality. I still had on my mind your use of the word 'trepidation'. Suffering is suffering. Sadness is sadness. Unfulfilled expectations are unfulfilled expecations. The comments presented by Magee that represent Schopenhauer's attitude were very depressing, though he stressed Schopenhauer's philosophy (an updated Kantian transcendental idealism) were separate from his pessimism.
Dark night stuff cannot be very pleasant and I wonder if it might help to make it a topic. It is a common experience in many of the strains of perennial philosophy. Or maybe just doing some reading on the subject can help. There are similarities between Schopenhauer's chosen word _Will_ and RMP's Quality. Schopenhauser had a meaning for it that was outside normal definitions. It represented the noumenon and was unknowable. His _Vorstellung_, translated as representations, sounds like static patterns, kind of, but he is not around to ask for clarification. For those who might want to run to Wikipedia for some information, Magee has suggested that Schopenhauer has been mostly misrepresented by many philosophers too lazy to figure it out for themselves. They have his philosophy tagged as "transcendental idealism" and simply dismiss it. But Nietzsche and Wittgenstein both were Schopenhauerian and so was Erwin Schrodinger. Marsha p.s. The book has the spelling Schopenhauer; I do not know what you mean by emphasizing (aurer)? On Jun 18, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi MarshaV and All, > > I can't figure why Schopenh(aurer) would grumble about his intellect? He > must have heard Parrots howling! > > The timeless value of DQ/SQ metaphysics manifested after his time so how > could he feel led into error? Maybe he was just a grumbler. > > Joe M(aurer) > > > On 6/18/12 2:23 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> It probably doesn't help that I started reading Bryan Magee's book 'The >> Philosophy of Schopenhauer', but I think it's an unavoidable step regardless; >> "It is almost, grumbles Schopenhauer, 'as if our intellect were intentionally >> designed to lead us into error'." >> >> http://lawsview.typepad.com/beingbuddhist/dark_night/ >> >> >> >> >> >> Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
