David to Mark:

Please re-evaluate.

Mark to David:
Your quote cannot be established as a truth.  It is rhetoric used to bring 
about an awareness.  As such, the quote is an idea, by which to view your 
existence.  This is very important in terms of understanding what Pirsig is 
presenting.  The idea comes before DQ.

I hope this clarifies what I mean, but I am happy to discuss this further so 
that I can understand where you are coming from.  I am always learning.

Andre:
David asked Mark to 're-evaluate'. Mark suggests that "The idea comes before 
DQ".

I suggest...like David: please re-evaluate. You have it all upside down and 
arse-about Mark. Now start learning about Pirsig's MoQ! There are books there 
and Anthony has very kindly made you an offer... remember???


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