Mark Smith stated July 4th:
> Yes undefinable can be a concept. It is the same concept used for God. What > it means, is that it cannot be reduced to words. As MOQ states, nothing can > be reduced to words. In this context, everything is "undefinable". That is > what is meant by static quality. If one can see existence this way, one > becomes more aware of Quality. > > Quality is much more than an idea, since as an idea it becomes part of the > conceptual framework (SQ). It is more of a "relationship" with existence. > > MOQ is continually developing into betterness. As such MOQ is not an idea, > but a "tendency". It is important not to confuse the two, or one becomes > stuck in SQ. Quality is reinterpreted in every age, as befits the times. One > is always describing the same thing. > > Once one sees everything as undefinable, gone is the stuckness of truth, and > in comes Quality Awareness. That is what Pirsig is trying to explain using > some tools of metaphysics. Don't get too caught up in definitions once you > are ready to take off. But, be careful. We have been told what happened to > Pirsig. Ant McWatt comments: "But, be careful. We have been told what happened to Pirsig." Pirsig had a breakdown (largely down to the extreme version of Western culture in which he was bought up in...) Wrote ZMM. Became world famous and a multi-millionaire. Bought a boat and sailed the world. Wrote a sequel on an advance of a million dollars... Yes Mark, it kind of makes me less inclined being careful - strangely enough. But that's just me. Maybe It's my "eccentric" English upbringing! Best wishes, as ever, Ant . > Quality is not for everybody. Especially those who expect to find it through > words. > > Cheers, > > Mark > > On Jul 4, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Joseph Maurer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Marsha and All, > > > > Can indefinable be a concept? DQ, accepted as indefinable, cannot be > > outside of perception. DQ/SQ metaphysics. I've got a secret! In MOQ I > > experience indefinable DQ and definable SQ. > > > > Indefinable reality, evolution, is metaphysically real. Stretch! Is > > evolution just definition with no reality? DQ/SQ! Open up! > > > > Joe > > > > > > On 7/4/12 1:37 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> Dynamic Quality is beyond conceptual and sensual understanding. The > >> Metaphysics of Quality is monistic in that it posits the idea that reality, > >> the world, is composed of nothing but value. > > > > > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > > Archives: > > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > > http://moq.org/md/archives.html > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
